Slacker vs Pandora – Or Something Better?
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As times change, so does how we listen to music, especially portable music. From cassettes we went to CDs, then even the MiniDisc (anyone remember those things?), then to mp3 players. Now with smartphones becoming more mainstream for the casual user, streaming internet radio is becoming more popular. Right now, two of the most popular services are probably Slacker Radio and Pandora. In this editorial, we will compare both services, and you will get the input of 2 people from the site, myself (mindfrost82), and Courtney1985.
I'll give you a little background information first. I currently use Slacker and actually pay for their Plus service (which I'll explain more later). I've paid for their service for almost a year now. Back when I had Windows Mobile a couple years ago, I tried both Slacker and Pandora, but I haven't really used Pandora in a while. Courtney only really used Slacker back when she had a Blackberry and has used Pandora over the past 6 months.
There also used to be a free service called Last.FM. The service is still around, but they recently forced people to buy a subscription for mobile listening. The nice thing with Last.FM was that it featured a "Scrobble" service, which meant that if you listened to mp3s on your mobile device, Last.FM would automatically track those songs and send them to their servers and tag them as favorites for you. I believe this is the only service that offered that feature. Since they're no longer offering a free mobile plan, we won't really be comparing them in this article.
First I'll talk about Slacker. Slacker supports just about every mobile device you can think of. Android, iOS, Blackberry, Windows Mobile, Windows Phone 7, WebOS, and even have their own portable player, the G2. Its also integrated into some Sony devices.
For free, Slacker will play some ads between your songs. You're also limited to 6 skips per hour. You can listen for unlimited hours though. While you can "Like" as many artists as you want, you're limited to the number of songs you can request/like if you create a custom station. You're also limited in your "Fine Tuning" options.
For their Plus service, you pay $4.99/month or $47.88/year. You get no ads, unlimited skipping, full song lyrics, unlimited song requests/likes, and mobile station caching. For me, the mobile station caching is definitely worth the money if you listen to it a lot. What this does is gives you the ability to have your phone sync and download up to 25 stations to your memory card/storage so that you can listen to them without being connected to the internet. This feature is only available on certain devices (I think iOS, Android, and Blackberry). I have an iPod that I use in my truck, so unless I use wireless tether with my phone, it doesn't have internet access unless I'm around WiFi. With the station caching, I can have it download playlists overnight and use it in my truck without the internet. This also helps save battery life and bandwidth.
For the desktop, you can listen to it through their website, or there is a Windows app you can download, which is just a fancy wraparound for the website, but it works. I don't believe its officially supported, but I've been using it for a week so far without any issues.
As far as music selection goes, I haven't really had any problems finding songs I like. Some new songs haven't been on there, but that's because they're not even out on CD yet. Their track lists go pretty deep for me. If you listen to a pre-programmed station, they tend to play more mainstream songs, but you can also customize your own station. You can do this with a free basic subscription, but you'll be able to fine tune it more with a paid subscription. You can tune things like auto-discovery (which determines how often is plays your "liked" songs/artists) or even by how new the songs are or how mainstream they are. For me, it does a pretty good job at the auto-discovery and has played songs that are similar to the ones I liked. With my fine-tuned settings, it also doesn't go deep into the albums and tends to play more mainstream songs, which I like.
Now we'll talk about Pandora. Similar to Slacker, it supports most of the major smartphone platforms, but there's no support for Windows Phone 7 yet.
For the free subscription, you can skip 6 songs per hour per station, or you can skip 12 songs per day, across all stations. Also, with their free subscription, you can only listen to 40 hours of music per month. There's also a one-hour time-out limit.
They also offer a Pandora One paid subscription, which is $36/year. For this, you get more skips (you don't have the daily skip limit, but the hourly one still applies), no advertisements, a five hour time-out limit, custom skins, the Pandora One desktop application and higher quality audio when playing through your desktop.
Courtney's Opinions - I'm a huge music fan and love to stream music all day long on most days. As you mentioned, I have used Pandora much more than Slacker but your opinions definitely make me consider purchasing a subscription. The caching feature alone just may be worth it. With Pandora, I'm not aware of this feature but I don't know if it's available on the paid version, my guess would be no.
In the recent months of using Pandora I have enjoyed the Android and PC version mainly because of the accessibility of creating my own stations and "liking" songs that interest me. I can't say why I chose Pandora over Slacker because they are very similar. I've never even considered paying for a subscription of Pandora because the few ads I see never really bother me. I enjoy all types of music so I don't skip songs that often either. I do see where this could be annoying if you were a new user and skipped 6 songs and then had to listen to something you didn't like. I would enjoy it more if I could cache my songs to my SD card, that would make me even happier.
I have recently noticed something that I'm not sure anyone else has noticed. I had about 7 channels created, some rock, some R&B, etc. After my 6 months of use a few of the channels began playing the same songs, mixtures of all genres. I'm guessing this is because after so long of listening to each channel and "liking" so many of the same artists/songs on each one, all the channels end up playing the same things. I ended up deleting all but a couple channels and I'm currently waiting to see if they end up playing the same songs or not. Either way, it's strange right? Like I said, I'm not sure if this has happened to anyone else, but it's mind boggling. It doesn't stop me from enjoying Pandora though. I actually have it blasting away right now!
For those of you that use one of these services, which one do you use and do you pay for their premium subscriptions? If you use something else, what is it?
We want to hear your opinions. For someone interested in one of these services, how would you persuade them to use your favorite?
© 2011, mindfrost82. All rights reserved.







Pretty sure it’s 6 skips per hour on free version of Slacker Radio. There is a secret to skipping the ads as well, but I’ll keep that to myself.
Anyway, I’m a Slacker > Pandora guy. I only use the free services, for me it’s good enough. Pandora just seems like too much work. Liking and disliking songs. Slacker, I just pick a genre and hit play. I also use Grooveshark and have the paid service. We use it a lot on my Google TV box and the sweet feature it has is being able to build playlists on the computer and use them on the phone. The service on the phone is at $9/mo I believe. I am grandfathered in at $3/mo so it’s well worth it for me.
mindfrost82 Reply:
April 7th, 2011 at 10:42 pm
@Scenemaker, Thanks for the skips per hour, that was a typo. I knew it was per hour, but for some reason I typed day. I corrected it.
lazydazed Reply:
April 7th, 2011 at 11:37 pm
@Scenemaker,
yep i love that “secret” song skipper… but i hate that slacker and juice defender dont seem to get along too well no matter what i do.. pandora skips way less when a2dp connected … i jockey between both of em all day long.. i drive a minimum of 3 hours a day and they both have their ups and downs..COULD NOT LIVE W/O EITHER!!!
Slacker free version is not limited to 6 skips per day. It’s 6 skips an hour per station, which is why Slacker is better than pandora.
mindfrost82 Reply:
April 7th, 2011 at 10:42 pm
@EDizzle41, Yeah, that was a typo, I corrected it.
I toggle between both Slacker and Pandora and use both ‘Free’ versions in Both Android and Windows Mobile. (Touch Pro 2, EVO and EVO Shift, also have an Arrive but as stated currently only has Slacker)
Android has the advantage as they allow High Quality Setting on both. (High Quality is available on Arrive WP7 Slacker)
One thing I’m confused about is the 40-hour limit stated about Pandora’s free service.
I stream Pandora for much more than 40-hours a month on Windows Mobile as it seems to be more stable and will stay connected over 1xRTT. But I also realize that I may either be ‘Grandfathered’ or since Windows Mobile is almost no longer supported aka no updated Apps it may be flying under the radar.
I enjoy this tid-bit and am intrigued in seeing what I’m missing from the Premium versions.
Keep up the good work
mindfrost82 Reply:
April 8th, 2011 at 8:16 am
@mariano3113, I haven’t used Pandora enough to test out the 40-hour listening limit, but I saw that mentioned a few places on the internet and I also saw it in their FAQ. So they either did away with that restriction and haven’t updated their website, or they don’t enforce it very heavily. I also believe its per calendar month, not a rolling 30 days, according to their FAQ.
jstn76rs Reply:
April 8th, 2011 at 9:26 am
@mindfrost82,
I have hit the 40 hours on my PC at work then just switch to my phone and never get anything about the 40 hours there. Maybe its just for the PC…
jordan016 Reply:
April 13th, 2011 at 6:34 pm
@mariano3113, I use the free version of pandora on Windows mobile for at least 8 hours a day every day at work and there is no listening limit.
I know I am in the minority here but I stay away from these streaming services.
I have a 32 Gig sdcard and I can fit quite a few albums and even one or two discographies onto it and really have no need to pay to listen to music or eat up data and radio battery to do it.
I suppose I may miss out on some New Music that I haven’t heard or bothered to aquire yet but I don’t know that I need to pay a monthly fee just for that feature.
dakidobf Reply:
April 8th, 2011 at 11:28 am
@Asphyx,
I agree with most of that. I like to be in total control of what I’m listening to, so I don’t really like the random nature of these internet radio apps. I keep about 15-20 of my favorite albums on the SD card and go from there.
I do use Pandora every now and then when I’m feeling adventurous. lol.
i did use Pandora for a long time until i grew tired of the “Are you still listening” and the monthly limit. Now I’m back to good old Winamp. Winamp has never let me down, I will always be a big fan. I remember versions like .96 and .97b … (those were the days
Tho their days may be numbered (or not) I’m a big grooveshark fan. The APK can be downloaded from their site. Not only can I build playlists as I like them, I can also switch to a streaming radio mode. Equally as important to me is the ability to ‘offline’ my playlists. When going for long runs, I like to save battery, and I’m not always in cell range so putting the phone in airplane mode, and listening to my offline playlists is fantastic.
Groove shark is slightly better, but often time it can fail to play songs which is aggravating.But over all better options.
Since Pandora has been found selling personally information, I’m glad I have never used it.
You can read about it here.
http://arstechnica.com/gadgets/news/2011/04/pandora-transmits-gps-gender-birthdate-other-data-to-ad-servers.ars
I would buy the premium price for Pandora in a heartbeat if the better quality sound was on devices other then desktop, I use Pandora on my IOS more then anything else.
I use Pandora one for one simple reason. at work I like to listen to rock songs without actual words, I simply could not do that with Slacker but ended up doing it really easily in Pandora. If I could accomplish that with slacker I would switch in a heartbeat. and you can increase the quality of the audio on pandora in the preferences set the network to High Quality.
I use both Slacker and Pandora, I use the free portion of both, though am considering the Pandora subscription (primarily because by I and my wife use Pandora).
I have found that for those who like Comedy:
When it comes to custom stations (I have not looked through preexisting stations),
Slacker stations tend to have a better comedy filter, they also include stand up performances from people like George Carlin, Robin William, etc.
Pandora on the other hand, you need to be careful what music you start off with, because they really don’t have a “Comedy” Genre, they also don’t have any stand up.
There are times were I just want music, there are time where I just want a laugh, for that reason, I switch between the two.
Forget both of them, I used to love Pandora but I tried Sky Radio on my iphone and its just great! The music selection is made by a real person and so the music selection is much better than the computerized junk the rest use. I haven’t used Pandora ever since I found out about Sky. I am not sure if they are on Android, but definitely they are on ios if you have an Iphone
i would love to know how to skip ads on slacker..would anyone like to share the secret?
i just joined slacker….never cared for pandora..don’t like being limited to 45 minutes of music at a time….slacker on the other hand is very good..i also pay for the 9.99 premium service….worth the price….you can listen offline..i only have a ipod so this feature is great….now let me get into this try to be short….i have another program which is called replay music that works great with slacker. Not only can i make playlist and record to cd..but slacker has albums by tons of artist that i can record and put on a cd and listen in my car…i never though a radio program could be so much fun…..nothing is better than slacker for me right now…also the music replay program i have you can record internet radio put it on your ipod iphone etc or make a cd….pandora vs slacker..slacker wins hands down…thier djs are excellent play godd stuff..
Last.Fm vs Pandora vs Slacker and a little out to SHOUTcast
I believe most of the radio streaming people got their first taste through SHOUTcast.
Winamp was great for that. Making SHOUTcast easily accessible.
SHOUTcast is amazing, so many radio stations so little time.
The Djs on those channels are hard working people. You see it through the conversations about music and songs they play. They know their stuff.
Maybe every music lover deep down would like to be a Dj?
Would certainly account for the popularity of the following music websites:
Last.fm
I created my Last.fm profile on Jun 2007 (Medusa6), and “scrobbled” 61357 songs and counting…
Needless to say I’m hooked. Last.fm is great for all genres worldwide .
I love being able to follow my favorite artists tour schedules.
The website is easy to navigate through. It Feels like a Music university.
The community on there showed me that my extensive knowledge of music was puny at best.
However, I am not currently prepared to pay for their full service so I had to look elsewhere.
Last.fm will always be my first love…
Pandora
Pandora is fantastic for mainstream (remixes and live renditions) . I find they don’t go in depth with the knowledge of the artist/band like Last.fm
After, you entered a few artists you liked and done some fine tuning.
If you don’t enter something unique you end up listening to the same kind of music all day.
In my eyes, Pandora’s best feature is “I’m tired of this song”. Which, when clicked, stores away a song for 30 days. Making way, for newer songs to be heard.
Which is great because i have set up my radio stations according to my moods. (At least 2 years of fine-tuning)
But I can see how it can be annoying to hear the same thing .
I find Pandora does not do enough policing of a genre. That’s why one minute your all relaxed listening to Toni Braxton and Bam! the following song is a high octane Metallica song on a Soul station .
I find myself going back Last.fm for original music and updates on my favorite artists.
Pandora latest skipping restrictions made me look elsewhere.
Slacker
When Pandora introduced their daily skipping limit on free accounts , including 12 total skips per day across all stations. That’s when I read about Slacker.
Slacker is great especially for Canadian enthusiasts because (so far) the website isn’t simply restricted for the United States for their free basic service unlike Pandora and Last.fm .
Slacker surprised me. It has great stations, great songs.
You can have a very unique experience by making your own station and you can pause your song! Unlike Last.fm.
They make a station with your favorites as well. Last.fm has a station with your “Loved” songs as well but you have to pay to listen to it.
So far, I haven’t been bored listening to slacker, it does claim to have more songs then Pandora in their database.
So far, the only con I see with Slacker , is I cannot find a list of songs I have previously listened to. Maybe it’s only available with their paid service which I am actually tempted to try out. To clarify, in the past, I have paid for the Last.fm service which isn’t expensive just wanted to know what I could get for free elsewhere.
Again, looks to me like Last.fm will take a long time to be dethroned. Pandora is a great music website and a considerable amount of live versions of your favorite songs.
Slacker provides a great deal of options on their free service alone. If you register to slacker check out the (Great songs you forgot) station.
Ladymedusa Reply:
February 3rd, 2012 at 1:09 am
@Ladymedusa, Sorry about the spelling and sentence structure English is not my native language.