HTC’s Big Announcements
You may have heard that HTC was planning a large press event in London this morning. While there's not an official press release on HTC's website yet, the interwebs are all hyped up about their announcements, which focused on three things. They announced the Desire HD, Desire Z, and a new and improved Sense interface.
Here's a list of what the new Sense experience will bring to the table (Source BGR):
- The boot time of Sense has been cut down to 10 seconds.
- DLNA support is built in to allow content streaming to other DLNA devices.
- A new incoming call screen slides up from the bottom of the screen instead of taking up the entire screen.
- Maps will now cache data to facilitate quicker map rendering.
- A digital compass is utilized to allow the map to orient itself to the direction you are heading.
- The new Sense focuses on letting you control and interact with your data instead of merely presenting it to you.
- A new website will launch next month — htcsense.com — that will allow you to:
- Backup and view text messages and call logs.
- Remote wipe the device.
- Enable call forwarding.
- Send map coordinates or trip information.
- Locate your phone.
Next on the list is their new Desire Z handset. This is consider to be a business-oriented phone with a full slide-out qwerty keyboard. It will feature a 3.7" screen, Froyo 2.2, and the new Sense interface. (Source: SlashGear)
And finally, we have the Desire HD, complete with its 4.3" WVGA display and metal frame. Its almost like a GSM version of the Evo 4G with an 8MP camera and dual LED flash, and the same 1GHz Snapdragon processor. (Source: SlashGear)
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I think the thing that bugs me most, is that all of this is for Android. And HTC has all but completely forgotten that Sense is on Windows Mobile too. And there are still a lot of people using their Windows Mobile phones, with Sense. Especially after all the ROM updates that hit every carrier within the last few months.
I’m just disappointed.
@Matchstick –
Just face it, WinMo is dead. No point in spending money on a dead horse.
@Matchstick – While I wholeheartedly understand your frustration as a TP2 owener, I don’t see any benefit for HTC to continue to support Windows Mobile 6.1 or 6.5. Microsoft is dumping it and the platform might as well be dead. We seem to be the only ones who give a crap about it anymore. They’re not going to keep dumping money into something that isn’t going to give a return.
Once Windows Phone 7 is out they’ll start working on it until it goes belly up… simply my prediction due to “too little too late” on MS’s part. Flame away fanboys!
Hey asshole, Windows Phone 7 is going to DESTROY the competition!
**typed on my KIN**
@adamw79 –
Lol. Good one.
What I would like to see is HTC put more time into developing their current line up of phones, instead of pumping out a new device every 3 months.
I love the “Sense boot time is cut down to 10 seconds”…on a 1GHz processor! Being an embedded developer myself, I can’t help but think that sounds like bloatware to need that much time with that much horsepower to boot.
Windows Mobile is far from dead. As time is winding down to the launch date, I am getting more and more impressed and excited about the Microsoft’s OS. HTC has already stated that Sense will be added on WP7 devices as Sense3. As we all know, Sense on Android is second rate. There was far more to the Sense interface when on WM. It will be the same here. I don’t even think that the audiences for the competing operating systems are the same. Android is for people that like ease of use and WM is more for business needs. Not a smartphone, a pocket pc. Let’s not forget that Android can be ported to WM but not the other way around. One OS is for work and one is for play. I think they both can survive. It’s Apple that has some worrying to do. People are starting to see that they’re buying sub par equipment just for the name and to “belong”.
iPhone = Jordans – Overpriced with no lasting quality.
I was hoping the big news would also be an HTC tablet as will but I guess that was just wishful thinking
@Mike G. So what is getting you excited about WP7? How does it set itself apart from other O/S’s? Not trying to bash it, but I just don’t see what there is to get excited about. There is nothing revolutionary about it. Its like the Zune, a me too product. There are stand out reasons of Iphone’s and Android’s success. I would say BB is the one to get for business needs. WP7 is getting into a very competitive mobile market with no wow or coolness factor.
@ace741 – Have you been on 1800pocketpc.com lately? I’ve seen a lot over there to be excited about. When you see these app’s and games demonstrated live, they do cause some “awe” factors. I also like customizing my phones and I see a lot of potential in every new OS including Android. I just haven’t seen anything on one Android that sets it apart from other Android devices. The interface is always the same. Android made a huge leap with 2.2 to me, and that is the only version I have seen worth buying a phone for. It still has a long way to go to be complete in my eyes. Access to the apps in the Android market is the highlight to me, but WM can have that same access to some degree through the success in porting. I enjoy tweaking my phone. Not just install this, install that. I take pride in my custom skins, sliders, taskbars, icons, and art all together. I just can’t get that same feeling from installing something that everyone else can have easily. imo
i read several articles on this first thing this morning.. a little intrigued I guess.. all the articles i read DO mention that sense is on winmo 6.1 and 6.5 also(so its not like HTC forgot), so until the site drops or they update with more info, Noone can even say that you wont be able to back up a sense version of winMO on that site as well…
lets not forget though, winMO is not running Full Sense… winMO uses TouchFlo w/ Sense Intergration…. Most of the people reading this dont even understand what Full Sense even is.. no more manila tabs, and all that jazz.. the Real Sense is way different than the Sense we use in winMO… So with that in mind, noone should be suprised if the new site doesnt support winMO Sense, since its not “really” Sense anyways
I thought Sense replaced Touchflo on WM. What is “real Sense” if it’s not Sense 2.5? HTC doesn’t even make phones with regular Touchflo3D anymore. That comment made no sense. No pun intended.
Can you name one phone with “Full Sense” please? If you mean with no slider, then you are thinking backwards my dude.
@Mike G. –
How can you say Android has a long way to compete with WP7 and its not even out yet. You say Windows is for work but that statement to me sounds like you’re still in the old way of thinking. From what I’ve seen of WP7, they look like they are trying to reach that very “ease of use” demographic that you speak of when referring to Anroid and the Iphone. No cut/copy/paste, Zune player and Xbox live integration doesn’t sound like its for business users.
And Android is becoming more and more customizable everyday. There are tons of custom Roms out there and as the developers get more experienced and continue to jump ship from Windows, it will only get better.
@Mike G WP7 is actually going the opposite direction of being “customizable”. They are adopting more of Apple’s ideas of locking down the O/S. Understandably they are doing this to reduce the amount of bugs that existed on WinMo 6.x , which brings us but back to the point that this will be another “me too” MS product. Apple’s Iphones and Ipods are already a powehouse when it comes to mobile gaming. Sony had to put out a commercial targeted only for the iphone/ipod. I personally don’t do much on the gaming so xbox live integration is a bonus feature, but not something to say it will revolutionize the mobile market. Android, for a O/S you say is not complete, is doing so well that it is targeted to surpass RIM’s leading mobile market share. What WP7 applications made you AWE?
1. when some of you say windows mobile is not direct, you’re very wrong. microsoft created windows mobile to be used with the titanium interface not sense. microsoft can’t help it if titanium is not cute enough for the kids looking for the in look. titanium is clean efficient and very quick.
2. WP7 can be customized more than any device on the market (besides the BG). in case most that have not read anything about the customization, it’s called live tiles. yes android has plugins you can add to screens, but you can’t make anything you like into a plug-in, but with wp7 you can make just about anything a live tile.
3. also with wp7 almost every type of contact is integrated with facebook. whatever you do to contact an individual works with facebook.
4. the individual that mentioned wp7 is not really considered professional because of zune and xbox integration. you’re very wrong because office 2010 is built into the OS and that aspect is professional. i didn’t realize zune and xbox were made for kids until you mentioned it… riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiight
5. when doing a search through bing the information resulting in the search is brought back in a much more legible format than any other OS. the search results actually come back organized in 3 tabs.
6. copy and paste will be implemented at a later date as per MS and if you do searches on youtube you will see that copy and paste does exist but not finished yet.
7. multi-tasking also exists but not complete yet. do a search on youtube on windows phone 7 multi-tasking.
8. nothing on the market matches efficiency and productivity of windows mobile, nothing!
9. what windows application made me AWE? you better start reading about the apps so you know. uh… adding xbox integration is revolutionizing the market because that type of integration does not exist.. capiche?
those who argue that windows phone 7 is not more advanced than anything on the market today are simply clueless. those of you that think the kins failed because of MS are the same clueless folks. the kins failed because of the $30 data charge verizon slaps on tween phones and parent refuse to pay it.
it’s seems all you folks trying to kick MS are really doing a poor job in your attempts. android OS is not finished and you have devices with different versions everywhere. you have apps that work on some phones and not on others. android is lost but people stand and say they’re great? seriously? good luck justifying that, but im sure you will try
oh and sense 3 will be added to wp7 as a live tile
@ace741 – windows mobile, wp7 are not a “me too” product, it’s the iphone that is a “me too” product. they copied palm and ms with the iphone. as a matter of fact the iphone and android icon grid look is a copy of palm OS in it’s entirety.
another fact is that the zune hd is a better piece of hardware all around. do your research you’ll see that also.
seriously how old are you people that think MS is copying apple or android? apple osx and 9 are a copy of windows 95 to boot.
@itster, wow, someone has some MS stock LOL.
I ask again, what apps on WP7 put you in AWE? No one seems to be answering that but keeps saying the same statement.
I don’t think you can put the phrases “Windows mobile” and “most efficient” in the same sentence. Windows mobile is the laggiest O/S out there.
Don’t really get all the bashing on Android. For the success its having, its hard to say that the O/S is not finished. Google is always making improvements on the O/S just like any company should. I pretty sure MS is not going to come out with one version of an O/S and call it finished.
@ace741 – people are not going to bring the info to you, get your lazy on the web and look. why did you buy an android with all that screen if you don’t know how to use it?
sell it get yourself a flip phone if you’re not going to utilize it
Apple, as much as I dislike their culture, did bring many firsts with its iphone. They changed the mobile phone game. All those companies copy each other one one way or another, which is why there are so many lawsuits with each other. To end this discussion, WP7 has to come out with something that really stands it out. If WP7 came out today from what I’ve read about it, I would not jump ship for it. Like Android was on the G1, I was not impressed by it. It did not wow me. As it kept evolving, it became better and finally got me to jump ship from WimMO (and the better hardware). Perhaps I would consider WP7 with later versions, but right now I’m not “giddy” about WP7.
oops forgot to address lag on windows mobile.. pick up an hd2 and let me know about lag.. you’re comparing a device with 1ghz processor to a 528mhz processor on the tp2.
efficiency is also part of productivity and windows mobile is the most productive out of any os even when it was wm5.
you cant compare don’t even try.. if you don’t have office and outlook sync, you’re not even close
@itster LOL, now you down to insulting me. Great way to make an argument. Definitely lost credibility from me. Would it be that hard to name 1 app? That’s cause you can’t.
Did you read that part that says “Hd device will carry the same snapdragon cpu”. That on its self is outdated now that the epic hummingbird runs circle on snap dragon. No way am I getting snapdragon.
@ace741 – you gained credibility with “wow, someone has some MS stock LOL”
if i did i would be a millionaire.
have fun with your searches, it will be educational
@iphoney4u – htc loves using old hardware… example? tp2
@sbrown2680 –
How about this… Microsoft should support Windows Mobile 6.1 or 6.5 because they made it in the first place and they should continue to support it. For example, what if you bought a car from GM like the Saturn and now that they don’t make Saturn’s anymore, GM stops supporting or servicing it? Would you like that? Well that’s not what’s happing. In reality GM will continue to service and support the Saturn as long as there are Saturn’s on the road. This should be the same for Microsoft. They need to support WM6.5 as long as people use it. If they want you and me to move on to WP7, then make WP7 so much better than WM6.5 that people would want to switch. DON”T force people to switch by abandoning WM6.5. That’s unfair business practice!
@Pandaman – they havent stopped support for wm6.5, they’ve been working on 6.5.3 and up for a while now
@adamw79 – lol
@itster –
I know. I was just making a case for Microsoft to continue supporting Windows Mobile. And I hope they don’t stop at WM6.5.3 but move up to WM7 to match versions with Windows Phone 7 and Windows 7(PC). Lucky 7′s
@Pandaman -
LOL don’t bitch at me. Bitch at microsoft and HTC (who my comment was really about.)
Trust me I REALLY wanted Windows Mobile to live, but like I said, I believe it is going to be too little too late.
I hate to justify this thought process but one thing MS has going against it is the “cool factor.” Microsoft just doesn’t appeal to the kiddies like apple and google do. One exception is the xbox but I can almost guarantee that most xbox360 owners would be males that are 25+ years old. The younger generation looks at MS like they are a big steaming pile of crap. Apple has done a splendid job of reinforcing this mentality with its marketing. Every kid wants an iPod. Nobody wants a Zune.
You can find millions of 13-22 year olds that want an iPhone but I am pretty sure that you’d be hard pressed to find one that knew a damn thing about Windows Mobile….err Phone (or whatever the hell they are wanting to call it.) Of course that’s not counting you young geeks here. You don’t count. I mean real people that don’t spend hours every day researching mobile technology.
I just don’t see them being able to complete in the Mobile market unless they’re going to be able to set themselves apart from the competition.
The business user wants a blackberry, the person that wants the “wow factor” in cool applications wants an android, and the non technical person who wants to be part of the in-crowd wants an iPhone. From what I’ve seen MS just doesn’t fit into any of those categories.
And for those of you who just think I want to bash Microsoft…. I pray that I am wrong. I truly pray that Win Phone 7 comes out and is awesome and blows the competition away. Because if that happens it is just better for the entire industry. Advancements in technology are always good for the market. One company puts out something amazing and somebody else has to up the ante.
There’s plenty of room for everyone as long as everyone brings something to the table that will set them apart from the competition.
@sbrown2680 –
1. MS brings the wow factor better than anyone and android wow factor is, “wow another app that doesnt work”? don’t try to deny this because my wife has the evo.
2. MS before the announcement of wp7 sold 3.7 million phone in the first quarter of this year. the drop is due to the fact that wm owners are holding out for the new wp7. that fact is obvious and if you think the handful of respondents on androidgeeks.com is a measure, you’re sadly mistaken.
3. MS Wm and WP are the most professional devices on the market today and most likely in the future as well simply because of office.
4. at&t already ordered 8 million wp7 units for launch
5. wp7 or wm never had a cute name but the sold 20 million a year and this trend will not only continue but it will eclipse those number because now the device is made for professionals (office) and for gamers.
6. the UI is definitely a wow factor because nothing out there even comes close to how productive the home page is. then again we’re comparing this amazing UI to a grid of icons? wow!….. wait there was your wow factor, i responded to a grid of icons that have been around since the 90′s on palm devices.. WOW! again!
7. MS was laughed at by palm when windows ce first launched 10 years ago against palm/handspring when the had 90% of the market.. guess where palm is today.
8. ask sony what ms can do… ask apple what ms can do… just ask anyone that ms has targeted what ms can do.
@itster –
Uhhhhhh….. again, I wasn’t praising the android for the “wow factor” or bashing Microsoft. I’m just commenting on the public perception. While I do agree that the large amount of apps on the android platform are garbage, Google’s own apps seem fairly solid and definately have a “wow factor.” If you don’t believe me then take out your wife’s evo and show your little buddies the Google Sky Map.
That being said, I feel Google does need to get a little pickier on what ends up in the android market but we all know that isn’t going to happen.
It’s funny that you mentioned palm and handspring as I truly believe the market passed MS by just as it did parm back in the 90s. MS came out on top of that battle only to get blown away by RIM and Apple because they did exactly what palm did. They were a market leader and instead of developing new and better technology they simply applied minor band-aid fixes and limped along.
Remember when we all had WM 6.0 we waited and waited for an upgrade and when it was finally announced it was 6.1….slight UI change mostly nuts and bolts. That wouldn’t have been an issue if it didn’t take so long to come out; however we were promised a vastly new and improved Windows MOBILE 7. Well they scrapped that idea and gave us 6.5. OOOOO…. Titanium and the honeycomb start menu. The biggest problems was that it is still slow and still buggy. If it wasn’t there wouldn’t be a need for all these custom roms. Now I am totally aware that a lot of the problems are due to the device manufacturers and shotty or crippled hardware but the public perception is still there. Blame it on HTC or blame it on bad marketing but it is what it is.
Honestly I never believed that android would get off the ground after the G1 so lets all hope I’m wrong about WP7 as well and cross our fingers for some decent competition in the market.
@itster –
First I want to say this. I love my Evo, its simply the best phone I have ever had. It does everything and more for me. I have owned many windows phones and loved them as well though.
Windows in my mind was a phone that could do anything and I dont expect 7 to change that. I expect 7 to make it more finger friendly and thats pretty much it. Their OS needs to be pretty to apply to the masses but there system only needs to be pure windows to apply to the purist, true power and endless capabilties lie with windows. Or at least it did! If windows 7 is anthing like it windows was before it will be the bench mark for all devies and people just wont know it. The iPhone could never compet with a windows device when they where on the same level. Most people just saw the iPhone as the better phone because they didnt need to get involved to learn how to use it. The iPhone is very easy to use and windows phones require you to learn things. So depending on which path you choose, either phone could be better for you or just better in your mind. However, the windows phones where always the superior device in that they could do more, even if it wasnt simple.
That doesnt mean it took a hacker to use windows. I learned in just a short few days how to work with windows thanks to PPCGeeks and XDA.
@sbrown You are exactly right. Itster is praising WinMo like its the best thing going on right now. WinMo had its time, and as sbrown mentioned, MS stopped doing any good development on it and which is why its one of the last ones in the mobile market now. I never met a non-techy person, even when WinMo was doing better, that said I love my WinMo mobile. I mostly heard complains how it always needed a reboot , or it hangs all the time, or its slow. Itster, you say oh well it wasn’t on better hardware like some of the android phones today. Look at the iphone before the 3GS, it ran a hell of lot smoother than any WinMo with similar specs. So you can’t only blame the hardware on why WinMo was laggy. WP7 is not even out yet. It could be a hit, it could flop, or it could be mediocre. Too early too tell. All these technicals points you throw out that you praise WP7 about, the average user won’t understand. If I were selling phones, I’d rather sell phones to a bigger consumer base than a small fan base or small techy crowd.
Anyone else notice that itster is talking about features of WP7 as if he already has the product in his hands? Maybe itster is really Steve Balmer?
If so….
Mr. Balmer, does the board of directors at Microsoft know that your wife has an HTC Evo running Android 2.2 Froyo?
If you’re not Steve Balmer then you obviously believe everything you read. If that is the case, I can get you $1,000,000 in cash deposited into your checking account next Monday as long as you send my Nigerian friend $10,000 as a processing fee via electronic transfer.
So either fess up to the board about the evo, send my buddy the 10 grand so I can get you that million dollars, or quit being an ignorant fanboy that just tries to bash anything that isn’t put out by Microsoft.
WP7 may be great… but considering we have MONTHS to go before launch you really need to quit speaking like the future is already here.
Public perception and popularity truly matter when it comes to electronics. Whether you like it or not people are sheep. We do what we see other people do and want what we see that other people have. Once again, the Zune is a perfect example. While it may be a superior product than the iPod; good luck finding a friend who has one as well so you can try out that nifty music sharing feature.
There is no BEST mobile platform. There is only a best mobile platform for each individual. People around my office are always coming to me asking about which phone they should buy and my suggestion always changes according to the individual. Some people are iPhone people, some people are Android people, and up until very recently some people were Windows mobile people (nobody is a blackberry person due to the lack of exchange support without BES.) If the WP7 platform takes off and actually gains some ground as a viable mobile OS then great. That just means one more option.
Fact of the matter is itster, nobody should be spouting that much love for a company and so quick to bash everyone else unless he’s got a nice cushy chair in a nice cushy office in Redmond, Washington. I don’t see a reason why you should give damn about MS because I can assure you that they don’t give a damn about you.
Decent Product + Good Marketing = Winner
The only people I can imagine who enjoy the iphone are people who are ok with not customizing anything on there phone without paying for it and have money to burn.
Aside from that, the cost of owning an iphone is well like any other Apple product. You pay more and you get less in terms of hardware. Is iphones OS rock stable, yes. It works and for the average person who doesn’t want to waste time dealing with problems (e.g. windows mobile) its a good stable phone.
@fcastro –
Thats the thing. The average mobile conssumer could care less about customizing a phone. They just want something that when they need to make a call or text, it doesn’t freeze and they can get on the internet and occasionally play a game or two. Thats it and thats why the Iphone and Android are winning right now. Simplicity.
And there is nothing wrong with simplicity, but WinMo fanboys love to bash the average consumer for not needing to reset their phone everyday, or not needing a custom ROM.
The same goes for Blackberry’s popularity. You would think that WinMo would be the go to for business users, being that its billed as a Pocket PC, but its not because when you’re on the go and need to send and receive email you don’t need your phone locked up while its trying to switch from portrait to landscape.
The people on Geeks and XDA, believe it or not, are in the minority and thats exactly why WinMo is moving more toward a consumer friendly, functional out the box, locked down OS.
You guys are entertaining. I gotta give you all that. Some good points all around. Let’s just agree to wait to see what’s happening.
@sbrown2680 – am i the only person that has the ability to watch videos on youtube???? there are 100′s of wp7 demos in action…..
@dakidobf – it’s not about being a fanboy, it’s about watching you kiddies brag about nothing.. is it so bad to stand up for MS? if so, why do you stand up for android? i see how that works, you can go around bashing with no knowledge but no one can point out you’re wrong?
tp2 does not need a custom rom unless you want to tether or run wifi without being charged, otherwise the tp2 does not need to be reset daily either.
also you must be from mars because everyone is using a custom rom on their evo or any other android device… let’s not forget jailbreaking from iphone.
i think you’re lost
@ace741 – iphone is unix based os and it doesn’t need superior hardware like windows mobile because it’s fat based OS.
big diference is hardware requirements and that’s why MS is now controling the hardware requirements.
you don’t believe it? go use an hd2, you’ll be lucky to find one that’s sluggish.
@itster –
What’s this youtube you speak of? Don’t you mean Bing Videos?
We’ve all been burned by silly little demo vids for upcoming products. Without fail there is something that couldn’t get implemented before the product comes to market. When the product is on the shelf I’ll be a believer. When the public actually buys it and companies like HTC support it, then I’ll be a consumer. Until then, there’s no way I’m buying phone that has a HUGE possibility to be completely abandoned by the software developer because they are sick and tired of trying to save a sinking ship. It’s not that far out of the realm of believability. MS has cut their losses and abandoned ship before (Microsoft Money, Digital Image, Encarta.)
I’m sorry but there has to be a pretty damn good chance before I drop $200-400 and get locked into a contract for a device that might not be supported six months after I purchase it.
Also, why the hell are you going after dakidobf? I didn’t see him bashing MS or bragging about android. As far as I can see he only was stating facts about the current state of the mobile market.
I know you think you’re all alone here and you have to be the standard bearer for Bill & Co. but as I stated previously, I’m a WINDOWS MOBILE USER. I just think that they dropped the ball on the OS and let everyone pass them by. I also think that they waited WAY too long on WP7 and they won’t be able to catch up. A ton of new smartphone users were snatched up by Apple’s stupid commercials or Verizon’s initial push for the Droid. I seriously think that the boat’s already left the dock but like I said before, I’ve been wrong before and I hope I’m wrong again.
one last thing…since you wanted to bring up jailbreaking: Less than 10% of iPhones are jailbroken. Not one person that I know is running a custom rom on their android device. Now I’ll be the first to admit that those people aren’t the most tech savvy but EVERYONE I know with a WM phone is running something other than stock.
… Before you even start to get into it, I’m fully aware that there are TONS of people running custom android roms. I was just speaking about the folks I know.
I also wanted to add that some folks around here that you are so angry with aren’t the only ones bashing Windows Mobile…(old news but relevant due to content)
http://www.pcpro.co.uk/news/249054/windows-mobile-6-5-isnt-the-full-release-we-wanted
http://www.pcpro.co.uk/news/351895/ballmer-blasts-windows-mobile
@itster –
It would be nice to just have a debate without the nonsense, but you seem to just run off at the mouth without reading or thinking so I’ll make this my last comment.
There is nothing wrong with standing up for an OS, but when you’re standing up for an OS THAT HASN’T BEEN RELEASED, and backing it based off youtube videos there is something wrong. There is also something wrong with ignoring all the facts in those youtube videos and speaking about what you THINK the OS is going to be about. Anyone with half a brain can look at the specs for WP7 and see that MS is going away from a more business user oriented OS to one deseigned for ease of use to the average consumer. That is obvious and thats all I was pointing out. I never said Android was better, I didn’t standup for Android either.
I am a former Winmo user. I came from the tp2 and while the hardware was good, the OS was slow. and I’m not comparing that to a 1ghz device, it was just slow. If you wanted to speed it up, you did need a custom ROM… if you’re not the average consumer. To say most people with Evos use a custom ROM is incorrect. I don’t and if you go to the Evo forum its probably 50/50. If we’re talking everyone in the US with an EVO, its way less, proabably less than 1%. And I will tell you since I got it in June, it has never froze on me(this is me standing up for Android) The only time I turn it off is to change batteries.
Anyway, I think we would all be better served to wait until WP7 actually comes out in the next month before we pass judgment on it. Oh wait… if you’re on Sprint or Vzw, you’ll have to wait until 2011.
As a TP2 owner, I don’t want WM to die… But I know it already is dead. And WP7 is too little, too late.
When the first WP7 pictures came out (Called Project Photon), there was hope. But MS had to screw things up. Again.
I watched some of the Youtube videos on WP7, not going to lie, I got sleepy LOL. Some nice animations, but looking at the walkthrough of the UI, it just didn’t excite me all that much. Live tiles are nice, but they seem very comparable to widgets on Android. Going through different tiles, like contacts, wasn’t as snappy as I’d like. It does look slightly prettier than Android. But google products like Android are always about speed and simplicity over aesthetics. It could speed up with final release of WP7, guess we’ll see. As far as gaming, I have an ipod touch and really not a big fan of on-screen controllers. They take away from some of the screen real estate and miss the tactile feel of buttons.
@Mike G. –
Sir (s), you may want to read the specs on WP7 specific devices.
Limited customization of the U.I (?). No microsd in devices. No tethering to external data sources. Cloud-ish i guess?
Open source or die for me, personally. As a consumer, I have earned money; and give it back to the businesses I support in order to ‘keep up’ with technology. So, now M$oft restricts how I store my data (iTunes + iPhone…wtf? I never understood that..)
I Decree: That operating system will never see the light of day in my house ever, on any device in any form or version. Issues like this make me feel unclean. For instance, Sony decided to take the ability to install other O.S.’s away from my PS3 via a forced update to the O.S…..”It does everything, then we raped it in front of you. Even though you paid between $300 – $500 for it.” – should be Sony’s new tag line. (Someone call Kevin Butler, Quick.)..Basically, I’m being limited in control over my device i paid M$ to create for me, based on MY demand? M$ can go fiddletheirwidgets elsewhere. “Business-minded” solution, or not….they can keep that crap in the “Microsoft retail Store”…on the shelves…LOL!!!
But, check it out for your self man:
Source: http://windowsteamblog.com/windows_phone/b/windowsphone/archive/2010/06/07/windows-phone-7-means-business.aspx
I love my WP6.5 rhodium5….It’s simply a great device, the OS is very strong (Energy ROM). But come the day the TMO-G2 hits the streets….It over for my relationship with WinMo. Android O.S. it will be.
It’s been a fun ride for me and M$. But, I gotta go.
Simply my opinion.
Oh, yeah almost forgot. HTC Sense….Wow, where do I start? I’ll sum up.
This is a “Lipstick on a pig that should have been bred from better stock from the git.” – situation.
I ask you this: If ANY version of the WinMo or WP7 family was built in the correct manner with creative customization support from the start, who would need Sense? I cant believe anyone could possibly cheer WP7 Sense3 (or whatever) shell that will consume your precious 1Gz processor, and RAM. Seriously?
@adamw79 –
LOL! Win7 will destroy the competition? typed from your KIN? Do you understand how hilarious that is? The KIN is living proof that MS can’t do anything right anymore. I used to be a MS fanboy, but now you have to be just as dumb as iPhone users to defend MS. MS cancelled KIN production almost as fast as they released it. And they were touting it like it was the hottest thing since lava!
@edufur –
Just more proof that sarcasm + internet = fail