Have you ever been asked to pay for something that you couldn’t receive? PPCGeeks’ very own blogger explains that the new 4G fee has exposed how Sprint is asking their customers to do exactly that. Sprint’s new HTC EVO 4G phone comes with a $199 price tag but also tacks on a mandatory $10 monthly fee that they’ve labeled as a “Premium Data” add-on, similar to road-side assistance.
Our blogger has been in contact with Sprint over the last week and has been asking them for one request: simply explain the fee.
Sprint’s “Premium Data” fee has been described by Sprint as a way of allowing their customers to experience data like never before. They call this ride a “Richer Data Experience” and the admission cost is $10 per month. The thing is, though, the blogger directly questioned the definition of “Premium Data” and was told that it is related to the phone’s enhanced features, such as dual HD cameras, Snapdragon processor, 4.3″ touchscreen and even a kickstand.
The obvious question here is if this fee has any relation to Sprint’s new 4G network (currently only in 33 markets). Sprint’s answer is that it doesn’t matter if you are on your existing 3G network or in one of their new 4G areas – you must pay the fee. They continue to state that this is related specifically to the phone. That’s right, customers are being told that this fee will allow them to experience a “Richer Data Experience” even if they’re not in a 4G area!
Since explainthefee.com was created 4 days ago, there have been over 5,000 hits as our blogger has posted his email interactions from Dan@Sprint.com and even emails from Sprint’s Public Relations department. The site has received numerous emails from people sharing their own stories and providing their supporting comments.
Several days ago, there was a Sprint “HTC EVO 4G Playbook” that was leaked on the Internet that poses “sample” questions that customer’s might ask their sales people. One question in the playbook was “Why would someone in a 3G market buy an EVO 4G and pay for the $10 Premium Data?” This was answered with the following:
The EVO offers an unparalleled experience on 3G as well as 4G. The combination of a 4.3 inch screen, built-in-kickstand, 1GHz Snapdragon processor, Android 2.1 and the hallmark HTC Sense experience makes HTC EVO 4G a best-in-class 3G phone. As 4G launches in additional markets, HTC EVO 4G will take a great 3G experience (and great apps created for 3G, especially those using video) and makes it even better on 4G.
As you can see, Sprint doesn’t clearly explain anything. Again, they try to sell the “Data Add-on” as hardware features of the phone. Our blogger has recently posted his last update titled “Just answer the questions.” This is what he wants Sprint to explain:
If the ”Premium Data” charge is not for the 3G nor 4G network access and the charge is for the phone features why is it that all of the “Premium Data” features are listed as technical specifications of the HTC EVO 4G phone? If I were to take this phone to a non-Sprint area, such as the south pole, would those “Premium Data” features work, such as the 4.3″ screen, HD Camera/Camcorder, faster processor, and even kickstand? Would I be able to use these features in Airplane mode? If I can use those in a non-Sprint area or in Airplane mode, why must I pay $10 a month to use this “add-on” when I’m not using Sprint’s data network? Can you please explain the fee?
You can read his ongoing saga and try to bring more attention to this mandatory “add-on” by going to http://explainthefee.com and joining thefacebook.com/explainthefee group. You can also follow the site ontwitter.com/explainthefee.
The HTC EVO 4G provides capabilities never before available on a wireless device. The $10 Premium Data Add-on will ensure your customers receive a richer data experience and get the most out of their EVO (Not to mention customers get unlimited data on the Sprint network).
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Awesome. He expresses it better than I ever could.
I’m so glad this is getting some media exposure. Sprint has yet to explain the fee. They keep coming up with these canned responses such as, the phone has a 1ghz processor and a kickstand.
Who cares about the processor and kickstand. If I buy a new 30 inch computer monitor and a 6 core processor, is Comcast going to charge me extra for my internet?
Yes, this $10 fee is ridiculous.
Sadly I knew it was only a matter of time until Sprint screwed this up. They need to do exactly that. If they are charging 10 dollars extra because it can be a wifi hotspot, just say that.
The truth of the matter, IMO, is that it is a 10 dollar fee for being a hot spot, but Sprint doesn’t want to admit that it has no way to tell for sure if someone is hot spotting or not.
I modify my previous comment, I didn’t see hot spot is a separate 30 dollar fee.
Sounds like this could be a:
4G expansion fee
Bandwidth overage fee. They know people with the EVO will be pounding their network.
Couldn’t they have just done an EVO Everything plan?
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damn, some people can’t see the big picture. the charge is because people using this device WILL MOST LIKELY use more data. the previous plans were based off of people using X amount of data. can you slingbox to a winmo phone? yep, but most likely at a lower res than on a 4.3″ screen. are you MORE likely to do it more on a 4.3″ screen with a kickstand? yep. are you more likely to send a bunch of 8mp pics to an online account? yep. can you use the same amount of data on other phones? you CAN, but are less likely to. this phone is being marketed and is desired because of what it can do data wise – the features of the phone are what make it attractive, but to use all of those features you WILL use more data.
when sprint developed the current plans, they were based on the amount of data the current phones / users would consume. now that a new wave of devices is on the way, $10 is being charged to cover the additional data that will be used. they should have just changed the rate plans altogether and positioned themselves $15 less than at&t & verizon for ALL phones..
sucks that bloggers and reviewers want to beat on a thing like a $10 fee that still gives a lower cost of service than the competitors. damn laughable if you ask me.
also he says 4G will not cost more. check out the overdrive unit. when sprint only had 3g aircards, it was $60/mo. with the 3g/4g card it is still $60. sounds the same to me. stop living in the sound bite world.
he also alluded to “unlimited” going away and going to a pay for what you use model. the bandwidth whores are gonna hate that!
Lets face it, the fee is for one thing –
With the release of Froyo, Wifi Tethering (or all tethering) is a native app. Built in support. Even if you take it out of a ROM that HTC produces, Sprint has wised up and knows the hacking community will put it back in. I mean, the phone has been rooted and it isn’t officially released.
So Sprint is charging $10 because they know people will tether without the use of a tethering plan…
I think it’s pretty obvious, and not something everyone should get all up in arms about. It’s most likely a fee that will be charged to everyone to help put money in their coffers to increase the 4g buildout. It makes perfect sense, and honestly, will probably help you get 4g FASTER. Even if that’s not what it’s specifically earmarked for, anything that adds to their cash flow will enable them to buildout faster.
Michael
HOLY S**T ! ! !
I didn’t know about this site, this is awesome!!
I can’t believe this site cares more about us “the customers” than the Sprint itself… wow, my respect for the creator(s) of explainthefee.com and what a shame for Sprint.
@srtpusher –
You are exactly right. The EVO is capable of using a LOT more data than previous phones. The specs of the EVO make it possible to transfer a lot more data and a lot faster, making it MORE likely that people WILL use the phone a lot more for uploading/downloading high-def videos and pictures, streaming video, download music, apps, full programs, anything you do on your pc. It’s common sense people, just think about it…
If you have an old slow pc on dial-up connection, how much do you think you will download before giving up and realizing it just isn’t worth it. You finally broke down and bought a fast pc and high-speed internet and all of a sudden you are downloading everything under the sun. Because the new pc and fast internet makes it possible and takes less time to do it so you are more enclined to use more data. It’s the EXACT same principle. What i’m saying is true and the $10 monthly fee is very fair concidering this. Do I like the extra $10 fee? Hell no! But is it fair and affordable for what you can do with true unlimited data? Hell yes! If you think Sprint costs too much and is ripping us off, go talk to somebody who has Verizon or AT&T. And don’t forget to take them a jar of vaseline to help ease their sore rearends!
Even those of you who only have 3G will still see faster download speeds than with any previous devices. This is a fact. And the same principal applies… you will use more data on a faster, more capable device. Listen to reason and stop being unwilling to see it for the way it truly is. Cry about taxes or the price of deisel fuel, which is cheaper to make than gasoline yet we are charged more for it… This is being blown out of proportion and I am the first person to say I hate to pay more money on my Sprint bill!
Like srtpusher said, this phone makes it likely that we’ll all be using more data. Initially I was skeptical about using more since I already have a smartphone and stream music for hours on end a day and surf like no ones business but Ive come to realize the err of my ways. For instance on my Touch Pro 2 I may send pictures but sending the same amount of pictures at 8mp is going to use a ton more data. I currently have skyfire installed but almost never use it because video looks like crap on it but on the evo it might look much better making it more likely Ill be streaming video. And when froyo finally comes with native flash Ill almost definitely look at more video. I cant really say I blame Sprint for this 10 bux increase.
@srtpusher → “can you slingbox to a winmo phone? yep, but most likely at a lower res than on a 4.3″ screen. are you MORE likely to do it more on a 4.3″ screen with a kickstand? yep. ”
The Touch Pro2 and EVO have the same Resolution: 800×480 (WVGA)
Unless I’m mistaken, a 4.3″ screen is not going to use more data than a 3.6″ screen with the same resolution.
People just need to get over this $10 thing. It’s quite ridiculous. If you don’t want to pay to play then don’t get the phone! How can it get any more simpler? And on a side note, I can’t help but laugh at the AT&T with their new data plans:
http://news.cnet.com/8301-17938_105-20006534-1.html
@blazinazn –
I can not understand why people are still with AT&T. I just read the perfect comment at that site, AT&T’s motto is we’re not happy unless you’re unhappy. Cant agree more. It seems every other week they are coming out with a more ridiculous way to give the finger to their customers. Increase the ETF to $350 for smart phones, check. Tiered charges for their data plans check. We all know that phone companies LOVE overage charges. Thats where the big bucks are and why customers like unlimited plans. Paying $20 for 2gb and another 10 if you go over? Why not pay the 30 up front and not worry about it. Also, who are the smartphone users buying, 1) data only plans and 2)Smart phones to use under 2gb of data? Barely seems worth the $200-500 for the phone.
Yes ppl, just let it go,if you can’t afford to pay $10.00 extra then you can’t afford the EVO, just get a prepaid phone and that way you can forget about the $10.00 fee and you can continue living very happy with extra money in your pockets. (And yhea, AT&T new data plans are ridiculous).
very well written article.
the anger seems to be not at the $10 fee so much as the lack of any coherent explanation for it. Seems like they really just want $10 and maybe even they have no idea why.
@srtpusher – so your argument is to charge people becasue in theory they might use more data?
This is the first time I can say Verizon is cheaper than Sprint. The HTC Incredible is very similar to the EVO and there’s no 10$ charge for it. I can’t see this taking off with the current way they are handling it.
@MordyT – many are tethering with tp2 without sprint knowing it or knowing it, there is no $10 charge.
here is what you should ask the rep that says you’re payig $10 more for the features… The industry is moving forward very quickly, what happens when a device with more features come out are you going to keep charging us more? or are you going to discount the evo plans $10 because it’s no longer the top featured device? what is the extra charge for wp7 devices because they will be constantly communicating with the web and updating on a real time basis?
ask those questions
1, $10.00 extra when most of us already have unlimited data with no real explanation is just wrong.
2, I have heard that if you purchase this phone in a 3G area you will be limited to 5 gb of data on the hot spot just like the Sprint air cards.
I am excited about this phone but I am so on the fence with it too.
@tx_dbs_tx – first off the practically the whole world is ahead of us when it comes to broadband technology on portable devices and they pay a whole lot less than we do. we shouldn’t have to pay more unless we are ahead of everyone else because we pay more than anyone else as it is.
for example, look at O2 in england, they give away the iphones for free on plans and we (not me) pay a load for it and must have this that and the other thing if we owned an iphone. they are also going to give away the dell streak for free also on certain plans.
sprint is screwing up here and we all know it.
by the way, when i asked why is there a 4g charge when i dont have 4g in my area, i was told “when you travel, you will have the 4g experience”. i told the rep, but if i don’t travel in the areas that have 4g then i will never experience it. she couldn’t respond to that response at all.
Does tmobile charge extra for the hd2 and the snapdragon? How will the evo use more data when its in a 3g area? What other phones can receive a 8mp photo sent through sprints picturemail server? But since it has a kickstand Im all for you evo people paying that fee. I dont think I can do it lol even though I said I would try it out.
for those of you that are constantly bragging how many apps android has and how many apple has, thank you for the $10 charge
for those of you that are constantly begging for more of those crappy apps written by 5 yr olds, i would like to thank you too for the $10 charge.
for those of you that are writing an app that have been written by 10 other programmers, i would like to thank you also for the $10 charge.
for thos of you that are saying that you will be downloading more and using more bandwidth with your device and the $10 charge is fair, i want you to think about this. for every app you download that has a cost, sprint will get a percentage of the purchase. just that fact alone should tell you the $10 charge is plain stupidity.
I agree with the view of “if you don’t like the fee don’t get the phone.” That being said, I can understand where the confusion is in those that are questioning the fee. I think this has all boiled down to a blow marketing strategy from Sprint. The fee is to improve the 4G structure for a cash strapped company. It is also an attempt to ride a wave of enthusiasm for the hardware to generate cash flow as well. If the marketing team would have spun the fee for say a 4g cost most would say I’m ok with it because I know about it going in to the purchase of the phone. But you pre order and get juiced up for the release only to have this pop up. It can be disheartening .
That being said I go back to my first statement. If you don’t want to pay the fee don’t get the phone, keep your TP2 or what ever you use and be happy. I for one will be in line first thing Friday to get my EVO. Hell I’ll even sell you my old TP2 I can afford the 10 bucks and I understand what it is for, so it is ok with me. You make your choice and live with it.
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FYI: i’m not happy about the extra charge because whatever i get, my wife wants and that will cost me $20 extra a month plus taxes.
I am not planning on getting an evo, but if this becomes ok with customers they will charge this extra cost for the WP7 devices that will hit the market (which i plan on getting).
Sprints Unlimited plan is still cheaper than every other major provider with the $10 fee. Just less so now than before.
Verizon unlimited everything $120
Tmobile appears to be $100 (this website is the most convoluted pos ever!)
Sprint $110 (with the extra $10)
At&T $120 (iphone unlimited plan)
just two comments in response to a few of you guys:
HTC Hero 2.1 official release has tethering as an option, there are also legit programs on the marketplace (pdanet) for android to tether, so sprint can’t say the whole, no tethering on our networks or pay blah blah… this isn’t 3 years ago where people had to get programs to tether tho their phones. These phone now have tethering on them stock, or download an app from the store that enables it. If sprint can’t handle it on their network than admit it and don’t sell the phones that have it.
and the 8MB picture… I can’t send a video over 500kb with my current phone or I get a message from sprint saying the file was to big to send…. so are we saying that these phones are going to let us send 8mp pictures over picturemail, and unlimited video taken with this camera (within reason), I think not. on my diamond I have to take video with sounds off and in medium Res. to make it small enough to send if it’s over 20 seconds.
I’m sure with Qik on the phone also they plan to have a lot of bandwidth, but again I have had Qik for a while on my diamond, and I stream on it often. The fact is I can go get a hero tomorrow, have legit tethering and throw qik on it, and go crazy yet not have to pay this charge. The only thing going for the phone is bigger screen, bigger camera(s), and faster processor (both have 2.1 now). If you don’t get 4g this is it, sprint should have written this charge into the phone (make it a 299 or 399 phone) It would have been more justified, we wouldn’t complain as much cuz it’s a HUGE phone leap, and we would have paid it….
The fact though is this, if they had taken the regular approach and made money off of us on the phone price, like they always do (hence why our phones are double the price of verizons yet out plan is lower monthly), not as many people would go out and buy it. Us smartphone nuts, and a few other kids with too much money working at the local fast food joint would have bought it and that would have been it. Sprint has been able to lower the price to compete with all the other company’s big phones, but is charging us monthly to get some of that money back that their regular plans don’t.
As you can see i’m a little on the fence about my approach, Just like the other users, I just want a solid explanation, quit beating around the bush and admit it. I’m gonna pickup the phone and check it out… but i might settle on a Hero. With the new 2.1 it’s really fast, with the tethering and apps it can be just a smaller screen Evo with 3g, which they don’t have 4g here anyway.
1GB of data on a 4G network is CHEAPER to deliver than 1GB of data on a 3G network. Since 4G has way more total bandwidth. So why the fee?
@itster -
Love it! You are spot on!
You are 100% correct are the going to charge more as phones are able to do more, or charge more for WP7, where does is stop? I think for most they just want to know what the $10 is for kind of like a justification on the added expense. I have read all the comments posted and for the most part there has been some valid comments made. To say if you don’t want to pay the $10 then don’t get the phone is not a fair statement either, I am sure if Sprint provided a valid and logical justification for the $10 people wouldn’t have a problem paying it.
The way I see it, Sprint messed up on this one.
$10 = $10.
4G != $10!
Uber specs != $10. as it should be included in the phone purchase price
$10 x 24 (2 yr contract) = $240
And though people might think otherwise, the simple math doesn’t end here.
If you keep your phone for more than 2 years… you’d still be paying extra for then outdated phone… all for reasons that sprint can’t seem to make up its mind for.
In my opinion the $10 is nothing I just wish they would let me add on the $10 and let me keep my family messaging plan but add more to my add on data plan. I can’t afford the EVO not because of the $10 but because it would add $50 to my bill. I have family messaging with a data add on. I hate that you can’t use add ons to plans anymore. My family members do not need data I do. so why should I have to pay for a plan that makes everyone on it have data. I dont mind the fee I just want to be able to add fees to different lines on my plan like you used to be able to.
They did explain the $10 fee, it removes the 5GB cap on 3g.
@srtpusher – i totally agree its like ppl are totally missing this crucial point, im getting the EVO and im fine with the fee, given what im buying, i would gladly pay it because i know FOR A FACT i am going to increase data usage more so than with my current cell phone.
@griffincash –
“They did explain the $10 fee, it removes the 5GB cap on 3g.”
Where did they say that? I asked my sprint store and they said the cap is still on and you will only have access to 4g when in a 4g area. Please share where you got this info from. Thanks.
Everyone is talking about the $10 fee, but I want to be original. Anyone notice how freakishly tan he looks in the youtube video? Thats why you don’t get a spray tan, just saying.
But anyway, the $10 fee is absolutely ridiculous. At the very least Sprint could explain themselves better instead of trying to sell you on the phone’s hardware. Richer experience? Try, fee to keep Sprint’s network from becoming like AT&T’s because they know people with the Evo are going to pound it with data.
If Sprint really wanted to sell this phone, and we all know they need to, why are they making it more expensive? I know its still cheaper than all the other carriers, but still.
I’m pretty sure the EVO cant send 8MP photos thru picturemail, they take up to much memory. From what i’ve heard the phone will compress the quality of the image in order to send. I’m not sure if there will be a site to upload your 8MP pictures to.
Sprint is a business. They are capitalizing on what is surely to be their highest selling phone to date. Plain and simple. You want it? Pay the fee. You don’t want to pay the fee? Don’t get the phone. I’m so sick of hearing about this!!!
will sure suck for me because we dont even have 3G in mississippi much less 4G
@MordyT – ok so if they know that then just charge the $10 extra but dont charge the $30 for tethering.
the Htc evo is the biggest phone sprint has ever had…. so there going to ride it like a white horse…. the phone is bad ass but i tether alot with my tp2 and the price i pay for my family plan in my budget, i would love to have the evo but $40 extra a month is not in the budget…..
solution== get evo, drop the $10 fee, then root for free tether
after playing with the phone today, i can say that the EVO will make 3g speeds seem like 4g. web pages load like BAM! i speed tested my TP2 and an evo both on 3g to load ppcgeeks and the Evo SMOKED the TP2.
if you don’t like it go to AT&T and pay $55 extra for 5GB of data… $25 for 2GB and $10 for every GB after that..
I will pay the 10 … Can you wave the wait every year upgrade bull crap…Come on …Waive the BS taxs on our bills every month…Oh yea and cut me a check if I dont use my insurance all year…Sounds like alot…. well 10 can be alot for the paying customers who feel somewhat responsible by there loyality.. Which in turned allowed your company to grow to the level it has become .. And to be able to have the funds give 4g..I mean Im grateful and all they give back … But do you really gotta hit us… Can we at least get a damn case ?????
@srtpusher – Dude, Dude, Dude….The real issue is people get so blinded by technology that they can’t even see they are being screwed. Why do you think Sprint keeps responding in the manner they do?
Now will people use Slingbox more?…….Probably not when they find out it works the same as it did before. Having 4G does not change how Sprint’s network is. Ok oooh, now we have 4G (and we are only going to upgrade our own towers.) So….all the buffering that went on with 3G due to spotty coverage and terrain restraints will still go on. I find the network best for audio streaming most of the time and video some of the time.
So Sprint’s wants to charge more for features that most if not all will use mostly while connected to their work, home WiFi, or WiFi hotspots like Starbucks? I understand though since you are going to be paying all that extra money for the life of your phone and beyond (Not to mention Sprint may move to LTE) that you need to rationalize/justify in your heads the extra cost.
With the premium data add-on the 5GB cap for 3G service is lifted giving the phone truly unlimited data. Read the fine print on your current plans, they always have had a 5GB cap.
In short, unlimited 3G data and unlimited 4G data on the phone. If you add the $30 hotspot, there still is no cap on 3G/4G data. That is a pretty sizable advantage of aircards/hotspots. Quite Frankly, thats pretty awesome, kinda like going back to 2007 when the aircards were still unlimited.
Why does Sprint keep talking about the features? Because they expect everyone to go crazy on the network and use the heck out the web, streaming video, qik, uploading 8MP photos to the web, and so on and so on. This phone is going to cost Sprint more to have on the network.
Everyone is saying this is a 4G fee and its messed up because Dan said 4G wouldn’t cost anymore. This doesn’t necessarily change anything. This is more related to uncapped 3G service which is going to hit the network hard unless they keep up with it, which they need money to do. Most of us will be using the EVO in a 3G market, and the 3G data is not cheap for any network.
Think about ATT and the iPhone. Releasing a huge phone and doing nothing to keep your 3G network strong is going to have adverse effects. If you aren’t happy with the idea, check out ATT’s new plans: it is $25 for 2GB of data on phones. They are going to cease to offer unlimited data plans.
Think about Verizon. LTE plan pricing will be structured per GB and they won’t be offering unlimited services for 4G data either.
Think about T-Mobile. 4G isn’t even in play.
For data users, it looks to me that Sprint is by far and above the best choice, but hey if you guys want to go to other carriers power to you. Just don’t expect unlimited data, and you’ll still get a higher bill for less.
Just Sayin…
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@EvanTribley – You really can’t even compare the Apple iphone dude. See the higher cost is a lot due to Apple wanting their share in every iphone sold. This higher cost for iphone service then makes sense to me. Now Verizon has just always wanted more money for their services but then again it is funny though. I hear a lot say their Verizon phones just work everywhere yet I hear more people saying Sprint is just alright to it sucks. I personally think it is just alright. (Still have love for Sprint though but right now they are not being smart. They are close to what Cisco did before the new CEO came. It is about your existing long time customers. Sprint can charge what they want but they should not make old customers switch plans. There should be rewards for being a long time customer. Why stay for a company that does not appreciate your business? Other companies do? This is the message that Sprint sends out. You are an old customer on an older plan and because you pay less we don’t like you, we want you on another plan that costs more?……..even though this new technology costs us less to run. A company that treats its longtime customers right gains new ones by their word of mouth.)
A lot swear by Verizon saying their phone works everywhere and are loyal to even pay more, why? Because Verizon has treated their customers better in numerous ways. Now us techy geeks know about Verizon’s phone limiting practice but to other’s perspective the stuff that is allowed Verizon supposedly does good on. So to these people the cost for Verizon is justified by how well their phone works and the fact that they have tried others and Verizon won in their experiences. This is not something I like to believe but I hear it time and time again and I have to always move the conversation to the good things that Sprint offers over Verizon and use statements like: Every person’s perspective is different some say Verizon is better others say Sprint. Point is I am hearing too often that Verizon is better.
Instead of acquiring 4G, Sprint’s goal should be to work on their current network problems. Even though Verizon is CDMA too and the Sprint phones may run while on Verizon’s network too somehow the Verizon phones still get better coverage…..long right?
On another note. The EVO 4G, I would have paid $500 for the phone if it was just a 3G phone. If it was just 3G would Sprint still charge me extra cause I would have that SnapDragon with 2 cameras?
this charge is bogus. do i get charged extra for using my toilet seat?
@EvanTribley “With the premium data add-on the 5GB cap for 3G service is lifted giving the phone truly unlimited data. Read the fine print on your current plans, they always have had a 5GB cap.
I keep seeing this brought up lately, and it is incorrect. There is NO 5GB cap on smartphone data usage.
See here for all the “fine print”: https://manage.sprintpcs.com/output/en_US/manage/MyPhoneandPlan/ChangePlans/popLegalTermsPrivacy.htm.
“Data Usage Limitation (Mobile Broadband Cards, USB Modems, Imbedded Modems and Phone-As-Modem): The amount of data transmitted over our network is measured in kilobytes (KB), megabytes (MB) or gigabytes (GB). Sprint reserves the right to limit throughput speeds or amount of data transferred; and to deny, terminate, modify, disconnect or suspend service if usage either exceeds (a.) 5GB/month in total, unless specified otherwise or (b.) 300MB/month while off-network roaming. 1024 KB equal 1 MB. 1024 MB equal 1 GB. “
Here’s an idea. If you don’t like the $10 fee, don’t get the Evo. It’s just that simple.
And how can you say there is no 5GB cap, then quote where it says there’s a 5GB cap? lol, stupidity is hilarious.
@ninja_unmatched – ABsoolutely ridiculous since Verizon and Sprint share networks. If you have Verizon coverage, you also have Sprint coverage. Nice fanboy ramblings, tho.
@saibot –
“stupidity is hilarious” I AGREE!!
Apparently you are also illiterate. I said “there is NO 5GB CAP on Smartphone data usage.”
I’ll summarize my last direct quote from Sprints TOS and put it in CAPS so you Can read it this time.
“THERE IS ONLY A 5GB CAP ON MOBILE BROADBAND CARDS,USB MODEMS,IMBEDDED MODEMS, AND PHONE- AS- MODEM. “
@saibot – so why didnt they charger me for the 12gb of data i used last month……JUST SAYING….
i agree w/ gullzway
Sprint always charged more for their top of the line phone, this is why they have not gotten anywhere, this bogus fee is a way of getting that extra $240(over 2 year contract) out of you. You think you are only paying $200 for the phone, but actually you are paying $440 for it.
This is what is wrong with Sprint ..instead of concentrating on getting as many contracts as they can to bring them back to a decent status, they go and do something stupid like this ..which to me in the long run will backfire.
If they are willing to compare it as Standard TV to HDTV They should of just advertised the “$10 Premium Data add-on” instead as a “$10 4G Premium Access Fee.” It would make a lot more sense since Cable/Satellite Companies charge you HD Access Fee to watch HD like it already.
As for the people that would say “Why would I pay more for a ’4G Access Fee’ if I don’t have 4G in my area yet, Sprint could of countered by saying that the $10 is being used for unlimted 4G access but most of the funds is going towards rolling out more 4G across the United States.
Labling it as a fee to use the 4.3 screen, front cam and Snapdragon is ridiculous! I already paid $199.99 for the hardware! The demographic buying this phone aren’t idiots!
I have been satisfied with the EVDO rev A in Houston so paying an extra $240 a year for “Premium Data” is out of the question. My 2.1 Hero is jus right for me. Thanks anyways Dan.
for yeas I was paying for 3G and my area didn’t have it… still had to pay though, finally got 3G in my area this year… after 3 years of paying for it
Why is this even a topic?
If you can pay $200 plus all the extra fees for a phone, you can pay an extra $10 a month!
It’s not like Sprint is hiding the fee from their customers.
If you want this beast of phone that the EVO is, you can pay $10 more along with Sprint’s already cheap Everything Data plan.
And if $10 is too much for you cheap asses out there, DON’T BUY THE PHONE!
ok have you gys seen what att has done? no more unlimited data plans? ridiculous huh? well sprint is trying not to go that route and keep everything unlimited. more and more ppl are using data and what you think its supposed to b free? you have to admit that anyone going to an evo will use more data while on that phone then they have on any previous phone? so Sprints systems are going to need to b able to handle it. so you are gonna hve to pay for it. either way $79 dollars for sprints dta plan is better then anything on any other carrier. if you cant pay the ten dollars well then…. you just shouldnt have the phone. stick with the HTC Hero… i mean seriously the Evo has a richer data experience as a whole surfing the web will be much smoother even on 3G then the hero as the phone can process stuff much quicker. its worth it.
@nitussi – so im guessing you have a better deal on another carrier? cus im pretty sure no matter what carrier your on if its not sprint you are paying more then i for my phone?
@saibot – completely false… if that was the case there would be no roaming. also VZW doesnt work at the grocery store here in town but Sprint is clear as a bell. same as at my house. yes Sprint and VZW share the same technology mainly. but Sprint doesnt have Roam agreements on all of their towers with vzw. but it is known – at least here in my area – that sprint has some great Roaming agreements. i love my coverage.
Broke sprint customers complaining about ten dollars. Iphone add on 30 dollars and if you text thats another 20. Stop complaining and enjoy the phone. Always attempting to get a credit for something, thats why sprint is going under.
@saibot – Duh exactly my point. It is not ramblngs….I have the customer complaints for years to prove it. But I do see others that know their stuff have commented so I will not say anything further.
In case you missed it. I have a lot of complaints that in areas Verizon works but yet when these same customers had Sprint, it did not work. These are areas where people actually live. If someone cannot get service in their own home with say Sprint and can switch and get service with Verizon?…… Then your dumb genius responses (aimed at throwing ridicule at the other party instead of actually defending your stances.) make you what you called me.
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To me this seems obvious. this device will make it easier to consume data-period. even 1xrtt data is less tedious on a device that can process data as fast as this one. So the rational is that regardless of the tier data you get, and regardless of the network speeds available in your area, you’re more likely to use that data since the device is more capable of processing more data than any other cellphone you’re likely to use. And that is a data experience above and beyond the typical one-its premium-since the data crunching capabilities of the device are unique at this moment…
And we can’t forget-Sprint is a business that needs to raise capital. I’m tired of seeing Sprint die a slow death.
Since this business will be improving a product of theirs that I use(3g data by way of better hardware that i interface with) then I have chosen to accept the higher cost for higher performance and I understand that it was/is voluntary. I could easily stay with my touch pro if i dont want the premium data charge. There are a million analogies that can be drawn for and against the premium data charge, but for me, if my price goes up without any improvements then im not keeping that service. If my price goes up because I chose to accept an improvement that the company offered me, then I’m ok with that.
Seems to me in general-across the board-higher performance yields a bit of a price increase anyway.
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@gullzway –
You are right. As it has been explained to me it is not specifically listed in the TOS. There is, however, multiple sections of the TOS that provide Sprint the ability impose a cap on usage in the networks best interest. I have done my best to get further clarification, but the 5GB cap sounds like a softcap that could raise flags. With your link, there are dozens more references to data usage that explain that Sprint may limit, cap, deny etc. your data usage. I will try to get more info on how that comes into play with the $10 add-on.
A for example from your link: “Unlimited Use Plans. If you subscribe to rate plans, services or features that are described as unlimited, you should be aware that such “unlimited” plans are subject to these Sprint Prohibited Network Uses.” yada yada yada
@ninja_unmatched –
Just a clarification to the Sprint network is the same as the Verizon Network posts.
Sprint operates their own independently built nationwide network. Sprint also has roaming agreements with other carriers to extend services beyond the nationwide Sprint network. Not all services are available in roaming areas.
Sprint has a great service area and is fantastic for having roaming features included at no additional cost for many rate plans, but service isn’t necessarily the same in on network and off network.
@madcowmilau –
I actually heard some airliners may start charging for this lol
@ninja_unmatched –
I was comparing what happened to the ATT network when they got the iPhone and didn’t keep up the infrastructure to what could happen if Sprint makes the same mistake.
The cost I mentioned between Sprint and ATT was for any smartphone, its a $25 add-on for 2GB on ATT no matter the iPhone or the Tilt2. That plan is effective today, except for those grandfathered in with current plans.
I guess I’m just not sure what you are disagreeing with me about.
This “fee” that happens to coincide with the a new data network (4G WiMax) is just Sprint history repeating itself. Sprint did EXACTLY the same thing when EVDO was deployed and EVDO (PowerVision) phones began to be sold. Customers were forced to buy more expensive “PowerVision” data plans, even though many did not live in areas with EVDO coverage and were still relegated to 1xrtt (Vision) data service.
“the more things change, the more they remain the same…”
@srtpusher
Hmmm. So when the current plans on the menu CLEARLY STATE: “EVERYTHING DATA PLAN with XxxX minutes,” What they REALLY (wink wink) mean, is “We THINK you’ll you ‘dis much data’ not ‘dat much data’ so we’ll call it da EVERYTHINNNNNNNNGGGGGGGGGG Plan!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!” Get real, fella. You can’t redefine the word “everything” to exclude a higher speed tier or a more feature filled phone. Sprint F’d up, and is trying to recover costs associated with the roll out of the 4G network. I’d be PERFECTLY happy if it was called the “4G network expansion add-on fee” or something similar, and not “Premium Data.” Data is data, fast or slow.
Oddly enough I see both sides of this. Do I hate the fee? Hell yes. But I must admit that I DO get faster 3g seeds on the evo than I do on both my tp2′s (about 200 kbps). I also tethered undetected on both.however I always managed my data making sure I was disconnected when I wasn’t using it.But NOW BECAUSE of the fee I leave my data connected all the time. So its the fee not the phone that’s causing me not to care if I use more data.
My area doesn’t have 4G yet and won’t for a while but I was going to buy the EVO anyway for the larger screen and faster processor. This $10 “premium data” fee was a deal breaker for me. There is no “premium data” without 4G. The truth is we’re paying $10 extra just because the phone has a larger screen and faster processor. The faster processor allows the data rate to seem faster since it will render web pages faster. This $10 fee sets bad precedence. I hope all the other carriers don’t think they can get away with jacking up the monthly fees just because the new phone they offer is better than others.
Personally, I have no problem with the fee. Everyone wants a better network, but it seems like no one wants to pay for it. The way Sprint is explaining this fee is where there’re messing up. If they just simply said its to help build a better network for the customers, people would have a easier time accepting it. As for the everything plan, I have that now, but I know in this economy, things are going to change. I cant expect to buy a phone that will enable me to use data at much faster rate(meaning I’ll use more) and pay the same…no way. This will start happening with every network soon enough, ATT is doing the samething by cutting the unlimited. They know they can no longer afford to give it away with the new Iphone and Ipads hitting there network. Bottom line is if u want better service, be prepared to pay. As for Sprint my message to them would be, stop treating ur customers like idiots or kids, tell us the truth. If the customer cant handle the truth, don’t buy the phone…simple as that.
It’s the same BS line of crap I received a year or so ago when Sprint wanted me to switch to a New Unlimited Data plan to experience all of the full, data rich features of the new devices they have, and I needed the new Unlimited Data plans so I would not be charged overages when I used these data rich features.
I explained that I already had an Unlimited Data plan. So what do the reps tell me? They repeat the same thing.
It looks like Sprint is trying pull the same crap again. And Dan Hesse telling a Fib?
Say it ain’t so.
The real problem is that people are willing to pay the $10 a month for the new phone. Sprint is testing the waters with the new fee and those who bought it have helped establish it. Supply and demand. Its really our fault as customers.
@Skippy38 –
i don’t like the fee and i didn’t get the phone. i had been looking forward to getting one since the first images of the supersonic began to pop up. i called about the $10 fee before i placed my preorder and got the same bs that everyone else is getting. i will NEVER have 4G in my area and i use some data but not even 1Gb per month. probably closer to half that. i already have a $120 cell phone bill for a family data plan, so $10 extra a month, in my opinion, for hardware items was a joke. so i got a moment and am very happy with it. i still hate not having the evo, but i refuse to give in to sprint’s $10 bs fee.
@EvanTribley –
Sorry Evan, your first statement is simply not true. I’ve been with Sprint since 2000 and they have not “always” had the data cap:
http://www.phonescoop.com/news/item.php?n=3033
Next time, please do research before making such a statement. I found this link on google with the search term “5GB data cap.”
I vote with Tom6433, I’m at $150/mo for family plan with 2 phones. To spend another 20 bucks/mo would be crazy, especially since my area don’t have 4G and probably won’t during my lifetime. And when the day comes when I have to worry about going over some data limit each month and racking up some big bill well I’ll just chuck the whole data and just use voice. To me when my phone bill gets to be almost a car payment then something is wrong.
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@srtpusher – if sprint doesnt even offer 4 g in my area then why the hell should i have to pay $10 extra.Thats just stupid and greedy.They should just state that any 4G devices or any devices with a 1 ghz or fatser processor cost an extra $10 a month.and since 4G isnt available in Omaha, NE why should we have to pay for it.Ive got a Sprint branded HTC Touch Pro 2 which i have flashed to work on the Cricket Mobile Network with everything functioning perfectly,and i mean everything is functioning,except for the sprint specific apps,which arent even incuded in the custom roms i use and the sprint specific apps arent very good anyways.Like taking almost 10 minutes to get a GPS lock using Sprint navigation. When using google maps on my Cricket flashed Touch Pro 2 i can get a solid GPS lock in seconds.I am using my Touch Pro 2 flashed to Cricket with a custom rom that has the newest WM OS release and the download/data speed is only about 10% slower than the Evo on Sprints 3G network here in Omaha, NE and the Evo with its 1 Ghz processor should be alot faster than only 10%.So i too am in the majority and think that the $10 data fee is just laughable and totally unnecessary and greedy.Sprint told me i would have to pay the extra $10 a month for my Touch Pro 2 also and its not a 4G device and doesnt have a 1Ghz processor either.So why would they be asking T.Pro 2 users to pay the extra $10.its simply greed,and a way to charge u more monthly.Sprint sells their devices cheaper than most providers just because of all the extra fees,fine print and other fees that no one can ever explain well.The sprint rep told me i had to pay the $10 extra monthly fee for my T.Pro2 because it was a windows phone, and that i had to pay the extra $10 fee for my Evo because it has an Android OS.Sprint has never had good customer service,and when Cricket introduces its own 4G then i will be flashing my Evo to Cricket as well.becuz on Cricket my sprint branded Touch Pro 2 is just as fast on Crickets 3G network as it was on Sprints 3G network,according to the Speedtest app its almost exactly the same speed on Cricket as it was on Sprint.and on Cricket everything works just fine and i mean everything that functioned on Sprint also functions on Cricket,except Sprint specific apps and programs and i get truly UNLIMITED EVERYTHING on the Cricket network for a grand total of only $69 a month and no extra greedy $10 a month extra fee,and i know that the 3G HTC droid phones are also completely compatible with Cricket with no extra $10 a month fee.Sprint charges that monthly fee because they make more money by charging an extra $10 a month and then sell the phone devices cheaper than other mobile networks just to get u locked into their 2 year contract which is an extra $240 total over the 2 year period or a big cancellation fee if u discontinue use before the 2 years are up.and i think the cancellation fee is about $170 or $180.So buying a Sprint phone/device actually isnt cheaper in the long run,it costs more.Sprint is in it for the money,not to offer better deals and Sprint makes more money by selling nice phones for cheaper than most competitors but they make that back and then some by the extra $10 a month fee for any of their nicer phones/devices and their early cancellation fee of about $180.Not to mention their unlimited package isnt really unlimited.u still have to pay to watch anything good on Sprint TV,and there are alot of other things that arent free or unlimited on their unlimited package,so read the fine print first.Sprint is notorious for fine print and adding extra fees for no good reason other than greed.But thats just my opinion and im only 1 sprint user and have been for almost 8 years,but thats just my work phone which is the HTC Evo.My daily use device is a sprint branded Touch Pro 2 thats flashed to work on the cricket network and i actually like my T.Pro 2 better for now.Especially since the sprint rep lied and told me that i would have functioning 4G here in NE and thats not true at all.But whenever Cricket gets a functioning 4G network im definetly going to flash my Evo for use on Cricket as well.Ive had Sprint for 8 years and Cricket for 6 years and Cricket is truly unlimited and most HTC devices flash to cricket perfectly with everything still functioning.I had functioning GPS on my old HTC devices like the HTC Diamond and HTC Touch Pro for almost 2 years before Cricket even offered GPS navigation.So for the price,options,and funtionality of HTC devices on Cricket.Cricket cant be beat and Cricket has better user/customer support than Sprint as well.whether you go into the store for support or over the phone customer support.Sprint isnt in business to please its customers,but only to make money.I know that all carriers are in it to make money but sprint always pushes the limit right to the edge and thats why sprint customers are always having problems,griping about their bill,and lack of a knowledgable customer support team.
@gprimr1 –
thats not true they charge you $30 if you want to use it for a “hot spot” and thats on top of the $10 add on. So if you have all those with the 450 minutes paln it adds up to $69.99+$10(premium data add on)+$30(Wifi hotspot add on)= $109.99 befor taxes.
CW
how did you get your touch pro 2 flashed to cricket?
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